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		<title>By: Resources for Teachers: Inflated Grades? &#171; Heritage and Destiny</title>
		<link>http://owenstrachan.com/2009/02/24/every-student-an-a-student-the-nyt-on-entitlement-and-grade-inflation/#comment-1795</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Resources for Teachers: Inflated Grades? &#171; Heritage and Destiny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 22:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: In the Blogosphere &#171; Kingdom People</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Feb 2009 08:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Owen Strachan on grade inflation. [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: lewsta</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lewsta]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 18:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Consider how things were before the Industrial Revolution in the late 19th Century. There was rather a direct connexion betwixt the work of one&#039;s hands and what one&#039;s mouth had put in it in way of food. It was the IR that led to the warped practise of paying one for the amount of time one &quot;gave&quot; at the manufactory. Of course, the dawdlers were soon enough let go, the hard workers kept on. I do believe this change has led to the present day &quot;entitlement&quot; mentality. I clocked my eight hours, I get my pay in full, never mind I&#039;ve fobbed off the half of my alloted production to others. This has been further enthroned within our culture by a near-universal abdication of the command &quot;Fathers, TEACH your children&quot;. Nothing about scoring, all about teaching them all they need know for a successful life. And if the lads don&#039;t &quot;get it&quot;, the Dad has failed. It all rests on the students becoming equipped for life, not on how much &quot;seat time&quot; they&#039;ve got in the local school. Of course, none of this answers HOW to get clean of the obsession with small letters in column on one&#039;s grade card. Perhaps the beginning would be a return to FATHERS, teach your children. Time was, the later conduct of the children were a source of joy or shame for the Fathers. No more, and this is the saddest bit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Consider how things were before the Industrial Revolution in the late 19th Century. There was rather a direct connexion betwixt the work of one&#8217;s hands and what one&#8217;s mouth had put in it in way of food. It was the IR that led to the warped practise of paying one for the amount of time one &#8220;gave&#8221; at the manufactory. Of course, the dawdlers were soon enough let go, the hard workers kept on. I do believe this change has led to the present day &#8220;entitlement&#8221; mentality. I clocked my eight hours, I get my pay in full, never mind I&#8217;ve fobbed off the half of my alloted production to others. This has been further enthroned within our culture by a near-universal abdication of the command &#8220;Fathers, TEACH your children&#8221;. Nothing about scoring, all about teaching them all they need know for a successful life. And if the lads don&#8217;t &#8220;get it&#8221;, the Dad has failed. It all rests on the students becoming equipped for life, not on how much &#8220;seat time&#8221; they&#8217;ve got in the local school. Of course, none of this answers HOW to get clean of the obsession with small letters in column on one&#8217;s grade card. Perhaps the beginning would be a return to FATHERS, teach your children. Time was, the later conduct of the children were a source of joy or shame for the Fathers. No more, and this is the saddest bit.</p>
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		<title>By: owenstrachan</title>
		<link>http://owenstrachan.com/2009/02/24/every-student-an-a-student-the-nyt-on-entitlement-and-grade-inflation/#comment-1599</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 17:11:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry--this is a very provocative topic you&#039;ve led us to.  I often think about the idea you suggest, and I think you may be right.  Thinking that brilliance--or even just productivity--will come from an automated schedule seems reductionistic to me.  Is there something sacred about eight hours of work a day?  I think not.

I don&#039;t want to enfranchise laziness, of course.  The Bible condemns it.  However, the Bible also doesn&#039;t spell out exactly what productivity in labor looks like.  So I think that there may be more room on this question than some might think.

I haven&#039;t fully developed my position on this, but I want to do so in days to come.  I think of people like Andrew Carnegie, who worked for a few hours a day, but nonetheless became the world&#039;s richest man; Winston Churchill, who had an unusual work schedule and took long naps despite an incredible workload; and David McCullough, who writes only for a short period every day.  

These and many other examples, along with one&#039;s personal example, perhaps, seem to suggest that we might have productivity all wrong.  Perhaps we&#039;re dumb to equate it with the mere logging of hours.  Perhaps it is has much more to do with how one works, though of course some tasks and jobs do call for long hours at different times.

I think we could probably stand to reexamine this, and to focus more on working smart than working long.

BC--appreciate your thoughtful response, as always.  Grading is subjective, you&#039;re right.  But does this mean that students should be able to negotiate for grades, as many of us seem to think we can?  Is there not significant good in accepting the standards given us, and in working with them, and seeking to learn through them?  Is this not what life requires of us on so many fronts?

Subjective standards are everywhere around us.  Some are better than others, but surely many students have far too heightened a sense of the subjective element of grading and far too low a sense of submission to authority, the duty to work hard, and the poison of an entitled mindset.

Russell--thanks much for your words.  They are encouraging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry&#8211;this is a very provocative topic you&#8217;ve led us to.  I often think about the idea you suggest, and I think you may be right.  Thinking that brilliance&#8211;or even just productivity&#8211;will come from an automated schedule seems reductionistic to me.  Is there something sacred about eight hours of work a day?  I think not.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to enfranchise laziness, of course.  The Bible condemns it.  However, the Bible also doesn&#8217;t spell out exactly what productivity in labor looks like.  So I think that there may be more room on this question than some might think.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t fully developed my position on this, but I want to do so in days to come.  I think of people like Andrew Carnegie, who worked for a few hours a day, but nonetheless became the world&#8217;s richest man; Winston Churchill, who had an unusual work schedule and took long naps despite an incredible workload; and David McCullough, who writes only for a short period every day.  </p>
<p>These and many other examples, along with one&#8217;s personal example, perhaps, seem to suggest that we might have productivity all wrong.  Perhaps we&#8217;re dumb to equate it with the mere logging of hours.  Perhaps it is has much more to do with how one works, though of course some tasks and jobs do call for long hours at different times.</p>
<p>I think we could probably stand to reexamine this, and to focus more on working smart than working long.</p>
<p>BC&#8211;appreciate your thoughtful response, as always.  Grading is subjective, you&#8217;re right.  But does this mean that students should be able to negotiate for grades, as many of us seem to think we can?  Is there not significant good in accepting the standards given us, and in working with them, and seeking to learn through them?  Is this not what life requires of us on so many fronts?</p>
<p>Subjective standards are everywhere around us.  Some are better than others, but surely many students have far too heightened a sense of the subjective element of grading and far too low a sense of submission to authority, the duty to work hard, and the poison of an entitled mindset.</p>
<p>Russell&#8211;thanks much for your words.  They are encouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Owen,

I actually disagree in places.  I do not mean to dismiss the aspect of pride present in grading complaints, or advocate grade inflation, etc., but there is, I think, something more substantive in students&#039; objections.  Your argument seems to require that grading is or, at least, can be fully objective.  But I don&#039;t think that it can be.  For example: say I&#039;m teaching you Greek, and I&#039;ve to develop an exam.  I can make the exam more or less difficult as I see fit - it could be so difficult that every student fails or so easy that every student receives an A.  Of course, if I&#039;m doing things properly, neither of these possibilities will happen.  But that&#039;s just my point - that the subjective evaluative choices that the instructor makes affect students&#039; grades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Owen,</p>
<p>I actually disagree in places.  I do not mean to dismiss the aspect of pride present in grading complaints, or advocate grade inflation, etc., but there is, I think, something more substantive in students&#8217; objections.  Your argument seems to require that grading is or, at least, can be fully objective.  But I don&#8217;t think that it can be.  For example: say I&#8217;m teaching you Greek, and I&#8217;ve to develop an exam.  I can make the exam more or less difficult as I see fit &#8211; it could be so difficult that every student fails or so easy that every student receives an A.  Of course, if I&#8217;m doing things properly, neither of these possibilities will happen.  But that&#8217;s just my point &#8211; that the subjective evaluative choices that the instructor makes affect students&#8217; grades.</p>
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		<title>By: russellandduenes</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great post. I teach at a Christian high school and the expectations of kids and parents lead them excuses that I could have scarcelyl imagined at my non-Christian high school twenty years ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post. I teach at a Christian high school and the expectations of kids and parents lead them excuses that I could have scarcelyl imagined at my non-Christian high school twenty years ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Geiger</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Larry Geiger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 18:09:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Effort is generally irrelevant.  Actually, lots of effort can be profoundly counter-productive.

This is an adage in software development.  The more people that you add to a project (after a certain number like 4 or 6), the longer the project takes.

Aimee&#039;s problem is entitlement.  She&#039;s entitled when she puts her all into a class.  Whether she gets it or not.  There is a lot of math, science and engineering that a lot of people can &quot;puts one’s all into&quot; and they still won&#039;t pass.  Appropriately so.

There are a lot of English, Greek, Literature, and Art classes that I could put my all into (and I have on occasion, though not always) and I will still earn a D+ or C-.  Appropriately so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Effort is generally irrelevant.  Actually, lots of effort can be profoundly counter-productive.</p>
<p>This is an adage in software development.  The more people that you add to a project (after a certain number like 4 or 6), the longer the project takes.</p>
<p>Aimee&#8217;s problem is entitlement.  She&#8217;s entitled when she puts her all into a class.  Whether she gets it or not.  There is a lot of math, science and engineering that a lot of people can &#8220;puts one’s all into&#8221; and they still won&#8217;t pass.  Appropriately so.</p>
<p>There are a lot of English, Greek, Literature, and Art classes that I could put my all into (and I have on occasion, though not always) and I will still earn a D+ or C-.  Appropriately so.</p>
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		<title>By: Intersected &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Every Student an A Student: The NYT on Entitlement and Grade Inflation</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] From Owen Strachen, Managing Director of the Carl F. H. Henry Center for Theological Understanding at TEDS&#160;&#160;  We should work hard when we receive a lower grade than we wanted to not gripe about it to friends. This is not mature, and it’s fundamentally prideful. It’s snarky, and ungodly, and it demeans our instructors. If absolutely necessary, we should ask the professor or teacher if we can talk over the grade. Otherwise, though, we should work to detach our identity from our grades. This is hard, but necessary, to do, and it will kill much pride in the process. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] From Owen Strachen, Managing Director of the Carl F. H. Henry Center for Theological Understanding at TEDS&nbsp;&nbsp;  We should work hard when we receive a lower grade than we wanted to not gripe about it to friends. This is not mature, and it’s fundamentally prideful. It’s snarky, and ungodly, and it demeans our instructors. If absolutely necessary, we should ask the professor or teacher if we can talk over the grade. Otherwise, though, we should work to detach our identity from our grades. This is hard, but necessary, to do, and it will kill much pride in the process. [...]</p>
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